According to an article by Fox News, hacking group Team Poison is out to take down Lulzsec.. Why would one group of hackers take out another?? Team poison is a veteran hacking group that has been around for years and doesn't take lightly the new hacking group.. referring to lulz as "script kiddies who use push button software to take down sites." Team poison also states that they are political hackers.. and take down governments who hide from their mistakes... But doesn't every group have their own motives for hacking??? LulzSec may be new to the scene, but seems to me that hacking is hacking.. Team poison does have years of experience, but if their only motivation to take down LulzSec is that they are new and not as experienced then it's not much of a political move.. As I have clearly stated before I am not affiliated with any of these groups, I simply post my opinions and views on the top news in hacking...
Here is my question to you guys...
Do you agree with Team poision or do you think they're just trying to take LulzSec out of the spotlight..?
Let me know what you think..
Tier III- Hacking has taken the spotlight...
Source- Rival Hacking group racing police to expose LulzSec.. http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/23/hacker-vs-hacker-group-races-police-to-expose-lulzsec/
Thursday, June 23, 2011
Tuesday, June 21, 2011
The motives of LulzSec
In my last article, battle of the hackers, I asked both the Lulz and Anonymous what their relationship is... I have since then had some mixed statements... According to the information I received in my last article LulzSec is money hungry and doesn't really hack with a purpose.. I have now read an article that makes it seem like the Lulz are doing this to exploit security flaws and go against those who they feel have done something morally wrong, at least against their morals. In an article I found on gizmodo.com, LulzSec clearly states that they have a wealth of knowledge that has not been released, even giving Brink users time to change passwords to the hacked accounts...
So I guess my real question is does LulzSec truly hack to show us that our systems can be exploited or are they just another group of hackers doing it because they can..
I also found the comment below on the article I was looking over and felt it should be included... What do you guys think?? How do you feel about the statements made in this comment? Let me know...
Source- The LulzSec Manifesto: More Sec than Lulz. http://gizmodo.com/5813033/the-lulzsec-manifesto-more-sec-than-lulz
Tier III- working hard to keep up with hacking...
The comment:
*Update- the user who posted the comment below later retracted the statement.
I tend to not to get involved with these debates often, but some of these comments are just plain asinine.
They are Childish versions Anonymous?
They are forcing Us To Spend Too Much From The Tax Budget On New Laws And internet Security?
They Are Ruining Lives?
They Are Stealing From The Poor?
Are you guys all morons?
Look at those questions, to me that correctly identifies the US Government itself. Not @LulzSec
How are they Childish in any way?
They Hacked Sony, The company that spent millions suing Geroge Hotz, for modifying HIS OWN SYSTEM HE BOUGHT WITH HIS OWN MONEY!!! HIS LEGAL PROPERTY! - So is SONY not childish for suing a kid with an above average intellect, knowing they would lose the case anyways but that it would bankrupt him in the process? They didn't care about winning, they cared about making sure he didn't hack Sony products again.
The US Senate, The CIA? Specifically with the Senate do I need to explain the childish antincs that happen within that organization daily? Perhaps saying a Judge cant vote on Gay rights because he is in fact Gay himself, yet they clearly year after year vote on bills that benefit millionaires such as themselves? The CIA? Well in light of the recent HB Gary Scandal, and the uncovering of a UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT FUNDED plant to take control of Libya's cyberspace I must say, Fucking with the US Government and exposing the secrets, as well as the fact that a small group of Unknown users can get into any centralized governmental system they wish is amazing. It showing that no matter how hard the government tries to hide the scandals, by putting this information on servers so easily accessed, Our current Government is just BEGGING FOR ANOTHER WATERGATE SCANDAL.
Spending too much from the Budget? Really? Says the Multi Trillion Dollar Defecit we face is clearly because of Lulz and other black/white hats right? Hahahahahaha. Morons again. We spend Millions Daily on funding a pointless war in the middle east, where we have now conquered the two men we were after. yet it continues. We fund a Drug war that is failing, A new study published TODAY shows that drug use and inprisonment of criminals for "Small Amounts Of Posession" has turned 12 fold since 1998. 1200% increase> ya thats not hurting our budget at all right? spending thousands every year to house, feed, and support a person in prison for 2 years because they had an ounce of weed?
Ruining Lives And Stealing From The Poor?
What about the Riots in 1992? Those caused millions in damages and theft. Lives were lost, our country's image was tarnished. But it was nessecary. It's no longer 1992, and while other countries still take to the streets for protest, rely on media attention, and riot through the streets.
Groups like LulzSec and Anonymous have taken to the largest megaphone in the world and started a Digital riot, which is gaining momentum towards a new revolution. The Internet is the world, without it, the world would literally no longer function. Everything has become dependent upon it. And with groups like this showing how unsecure, and how corrupt ours and other national governments are, I fully support the movement. It's time for a change. Obama Promised it @LulzSec is delivering it.
Get off your high horses, and put your noses down. You have no right to look down on these people anymore than you do for Martin Luther King for his protests, The Womens Rights Movements, The Egyptian Revolution, the Riots of 92. All forms of the freedom of expression granted to us as humans. Just as you voice your opinion, and just as I am now, most will not see this nor take the time to read it, but Groups like Lulz have been able to get their voices heard.
Do you want your opinion to matter? Do you want the kind of attention they get? Then take them down. They clearly want everyone to try. They are publicly humiliating our government and corporate america, and they love every minute of it.
So instead of trying to flame them trough twitter, or hate because they are ruining your precious games and interwebs. Fight them back, and see what happens. I bet you wish real soon you hadnt voiced your opinion. Just my 2 cents. and I'm sure many attempts will be taken on my accounts for this, but i felt i should say it.
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So I guess my real question is does LulzSec truly hack to show us that our systems can be exploited or are they just another group of hackers doing it because they can..
I also found the comment below on the article I was looking over and felt it should be included... What do you guys think?? How do you feel about the statements made in this comment? Let me know...
Source- The LulzSec Manifesto: More Sec than Lulz. http://gizmodo.com/5813033/the-lulzsec-manifesto-more-sec-than-lulz
Tier III- working hard to keep up with hacking...
The comment:
*Update- the user who posted the comment below later retracted the statement.
I tend to not to get involved with these debates often, but some of these comments are just plain asinine.
They are Childish versions Anonymous?
They are forcing Us To Spend Too Much From The Tax Budget On New Laws And internet Security?
They Are Ruining Lives?
They Are Stealing From The Poor?
Are you guys all morons?
Look at those questions, to me that correctly identifies the US Government itself. Not @LulzSec
How are they Childish in any way?
They Hacked Sony, The company that spent millions suing Geroge Hotz, for modifying HIS OWN SYSTEM HE BOUGHT WITH HIS OWN MONEY!!! HIS LEGAL PROPERTY! - So is SONY not childish for suing a kid with an above average intellect, knowing they would lose the case anyways but that it would bankrupt him in the process? They didn't care about winning, they cared about making sure he didn't hack Sony products again.
The US Senate, The CIA? Specifically with the Senate do I need to explain the childish antincs that happen within that organization daily? Perhaps saying a Judge cant vote on Gay rights because he is in fact Gay himself, yet they clearly year after year vote on bills that benefit millionaires such as themselves? The CIA? Well in light of the recent HB Gary Scandal, and the uncovering of a UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT FUNDED plant to take control of Libya's cyberspace I must say, Fucking with the US Government and exposing the secrets, as well as the fact that a small group of Unknown users can get into any centralized governmental system they wish is amazing. It showing that no matter how hard the government tries to hide the scandals, by putting this information on servers so easily accessed, Our current Government is just BEGGING FOR ANOTHER WATERGATE SCANDAL.
Spending too much from the Budget? Really? Says the Multi Trillion Dollar Defecit we face is clearly because of Lulz and other black/white hats right? Hahahahahaha. Morons again. We spend Millions Daily on funding a pointless war in the middle east, where we have now conquered the two men we were after. yet it continues. We fund a Drug war that is failing, A new study published TODAY shows that drug use and inprisonment of criminals for "Small Amounts Of Posession" has turned 12 fold since 1998. 1200% increase> ya thats not hurting our budget at all right? spending thousands every year to house, feed, and support a person in prison for 2 years because they had an ounce of weed?
Ruining Lives And Stealing From The Poor?
What about the Riots in 1992? Those caused millions in damages and theft. Lives were lost, our country's image was tarnished. But it was nessecary. It's no longer 1992, and while other countries still take to the streets for protest, rely on media attention, and riot through the streets.
Groups like LulzSec and Anonymous have taken to the largest megaphone in the world and started a Digital riot, which is gaining momentum towards a new revolution. The Internet is the world, without it, the world would literally no longer function. Everything has become dependent upon it. And with groups like this showing how unsecure, and how corrupt ours and other national governments are, I fully support the movement. It's time for a change. Obama Promised it @LulzSec is delivering it.
Get off your high horses, and put your noses down. You have no right to look down on these people anymore than you do for Martin Luther King for his protests, The Womens Rights Movements, The Egyptian Revolution, the Riots of 92. All forms of the freedom of expression granted to us as humans. Just as you voice your opinion, and just as I am now, most will not see this nor take the time to read it, but Groups like Lulz have been able to get their voices heard.
Do you want your opinion to matter? Do you want the kind of attention they get? Then take them down. They clearly want everyone to try. They are publicly humiliating our government and corporate america, and they love every minute of it.
So instead of trying to flame them trough twitter, or hate because they are ruining your precious games and interwebs. Fight them back, and see what happens. I bet you wish real soon you hadnt voiced your opinion. Just my 2 cents. and I'm sure many attempts will be taken on my accounts for this, but i felt i should say it.
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